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16-24kw burner problems
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- Stoker II
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Re: 16-24kw burner problems
Progress!
Here's me:
http://stokercloud.dk/dev/markomanniste.html
Now would really need some good settings magic
Here's me:
http://stokercloud.dk/dev/markomanniste.html
Now would really need some good settings magic
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- Stoker II
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Re: 16-24kw burner problems
I have a friend who has Scotte 20kw burner and when comparing our readings then my smoke temp is a lot higher.
Friend: http://stokercloud.dk/dev/semka.html?
Me: http://stokercloud.dk/dev/markomanniste.html
About the blower values. I have this blower http://www.stokerforum.dk/index.php?act ... 2620;image
according to this http://nbe.dk/wp-content/uploads/2015/0 ... fl85mm.pdf it looks like Rebeck 97, so i would need 12-18-24 but those figures just smoke a lot and don't work well.
And then I found this thread: http://www.stokerforum.dk/index.php?topic=3263.0 so according to this the condenser might be the troublemaker...
Friend: http://stokercloud.dk/dev/semka.html?
Me: http://stokercloud.dk/dev/markomanniste.html
About the blower values. I have this blower http://www.stokerforum.dk/index.php?act ... 2620;image
according to this http://nbe.dk/wp-content/uploads/2015/0 ... fl85mm.pdf it looks like Rebeck 97, so i would need 12-18-24 but those figures just smoke a lot and don't work well.
And then I found this thread: http://www.stokerforum.dk/index.php?topic=3263.0 so according to this the condenser might be the troublemaker...
Re: 16-24kw burner problems
You can not compare two different installations.
You have 300m2 while your friends just 170m2.
The location of the sensor also plays a major role, and are they both clean?
You have 300m2 while your friends just 170m2.
The location of the sensor also plays a major role, and are they both clean?
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- Stoker II
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- Stoker II
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Re: 16-24kw burner problems
So as I beginning to understand, the blower values I kind a need to guess while looking at the flame.
But is there any settings that would help the boiler to lower the power by itself if reached its temperature. Right now it heats up and goes to Temp Stop, instead of just lowering the power. I mean is that normal and preferred? Its like takes too long for the burner to react when the temperature rises.
But is there any settings that would help the boiler to lower the power by itself if reached its temperature. Right now it heats up and goes to Temp Stop, instead of just lowering the power. I mean is that normal and preferred? Its like takes too long for the burner to react when the temperature rises.
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Re: 16-24kw burner problems
It should lower the power by itself, it could have something to do with PI settings, which I'm not strong on.
You could try to set the boiler temp to 65 and 15 over to prevent the Temp stop. Thats my settings.
You could try to set the boiler temp to 65 and 15 over to prevent the Temp stop. Thats my settings.
Mvh. Ole
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Re: 16-24kw burner problems
From your curves, it seems as if your pump run too slowlymanniste skrev:So as I beginning to understand, the blower values I kind a need to guess while looking at the flame.
But is there any settings that would help the boiler to lower the power by itself if reached its temperature. Right now it heats up and goes to Temp Stop, instead of just lowering the power. I mean is that normal and preferred? Its like takes too long for the burner to react when the temperature rises.
and that the P value is too low.
Try a higher P.
perhaps 1.5
It would be a good idea if you put the link to your StokerCloud into the signature line.
So, it becomes easier to help
Best regards
Michael fra StokerCloud Service http://www.nbe.dk/sadan-fungere-stokercloud/
Find manualer her https://www.nbe.dk/manualer-nbe/
Tekniske vejledninger https://www.nbe.dk/tekniske-vejledninger/
Michael fra StokerCloud Service http://www.nbe.dk/sadan-fungere-stokercloud/
Find manualer her https://www.nbe.dk/manualer-nbe/
Tekniske vejledninger https://www.nbe.dk/tekniske-vejledninger/
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- Stoker II
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Re: 16-24kw burner problems
Hi and thanks for help!
Increased the P and pumps speed.
When went to do that noticed that the burning crate was completely filled with pellets, to the top. ( I have this crate with the stone on top). So there was no room for anything, had to swipe some of them away just to let air move again. That doesn't seem normal also.
Increased the P and pumps speed.
When went to do that noticed that the burning crate was completely filled with pellets, to the top. ( I have this crate with the stone on top). So there was no room for anything, had to swipe some of them away just to let air move again. That doesn't seem normal also.
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Re: 16-24kw burner problems
What fan do you have ? ( i have seen the photo )manniste skrev:Hi and thanks for help!
Increased the P and pumps speed.
When went to do that noticed that the burning crate was completely filled with pellets, to the top. ( I have this crate with the stone on top). So there was no room for anything, had to swipe some of them away just to let air move again. That doesn't seem normal also.
What are your fan/blower numbers ?
What are your numbers in menu Clean ?
( just to be sure )
Best regards
Michael fra StokerCloud Service http://www.nbe.dk/sadan-fungere-stokercloud/
Find manualer her https://www.nbe.dk/manualer-nbe/
Tekniske vejledninger https://www.nbe.dk/tekniske-vejledninger/
Michael fra StokerCloud Service http://www.nbe.dk/sadan-fungere-stokercloud/
Find manualer her https://www.nbe.dk/manualer-nbe/
Tekniske vejledninger https://www.nbe.dk/tekniske-vejledninger/